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Dharma's Dyehouse Color Remover

Thiourea dioxide (AKA Thiox, Spectralite)

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$10.99
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Product Description

Also called Thiox or Spectralite, this chemical (Thiourea Dioxide) is often listed as one of the ingredients in Indigo dyeing recipes.

In addition, DyeHouse Color Remover is used to remove the color from whole pieces of fabric, also for "reverse" Shibori, or tie dye where you are removing dye in a pattern from something already dyed - either by simmering in a pot on a stove or using very hot tap water in a bucket or washing machine. It works with varying degrees of effectiveness depending on the dye and the colors to which it is being applied. Simmering works best. It is usually very effective for use in correcting dyeing mistakes made with Procion dyes, again, depending on the color. Testing first is always recommended. Not to be used with Aluminum, cast iron or copper pans or utensils. A 2 oz. packet is good for about 4 lbs. of fabric. You'll also need 8 oz. of soda ash and some Synthrapol.  See our discharging instructions in our How To section.

Always work in a well ventilated area. We recommend that you use Color Remover with a Respirator Mask using Gas/Vapor Cartridges especially if you have allergies or asthma as this product has been known to aggravate those conditions.

To prolong shelf life, store in airtight container in a cool place. Exposure to moisture and heat makes it go bad. It will gradually turn yellowish if it has gone bad. When in doubt, test!

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Color of powder may vary. Has a shelf life that depends on storage conditions, temperature etc. When in doubt, TEST!

Color Remover
Color Remover

GENERAL INFORMATION AND USE

Dharma Color Remover can be used to remove the color from most cotton, rayon, linen and blends which have been dyed with fiber reactive dyes (Procion) or direct dyes. Not all colors will come out 100%, but they can all be lightened enough for overdyeing. It can also be used to strip color from yarns, fabrics or already sewn clothing.

It will not necessarily remove all the color of all types of dyes from all types of fabrics. It is always best to first do a test before using it on something of considerable value to you

 

DIRECTIONS FOR USE

The instructions below are for one pound of fabric. You can divide or multiply to suit your requirements.

For each pound of fabric put into a pot:

  • 2 gallons water
  • 1 Tablespoon Soda Ash (Fixer)
  • 1/2 Teaspoon synthrapol or liquid dish washing soap
  • 1 Tablespoon color remover

Add the fabric and heat to a boil. While the mixture is simmering, add an additional 1/4 teaspoon of Color Remover every 15 minutes for an hour. (1 extra teaspoon total). Stir gently and simmer for another 15 minutes. Remove and rinse well.

 

DHARMA COMMENTS:

It's a hit & miss afair - works best with Fiber Reactive Dye - with others you just have to try it.


Discharging
Discharging

DISCHARGING

Discharging is the process of removing dye (by destroying or altering the dye "chromophores") with various chemicals or bleach, often in pleasing patterns or designs through Shibori or Tie Dye methods, or by stamping, stenciling or block printing. Discharging can be incorporated into more complex designs with over-dyeing other colors or combined with painting, printing or stenciling with opaque Fabric Paints like Lumiere, Neopaque and Setacolor. Discharging can also be used to "fix" dyeing mistakes. Discharging is one more way to make your own incredible unique fabrics for quilting or clothing.

Fabrics discharge with different chemicals depending on the type of fabric and what it was dyed with. Some dyes won't discharge at all, or only with very dangerous chemicals, which we don't want to carry because of safety issues. Also, discharging rarely returns fabric to its original color or white. Some blacks, for example, will only discharge to a nice reddish brown color, while others will go to a very pale tan. The moral of the story is test test test! Work in well-ventilated areas, and use our Multi Gas/Vapor cartridges for the Deluxe Dust Mask for added protection as the discharging chemicals give off strong Ammonia fumes, or you have the chlorine fumes with the bleach. We carry several books with good information on discharging such as:

Complex Cloth by Jane Dunnewold

DISCHARGING WITH DISCHARGE PASTE

Discharge paste is a reducing agent. It is fairly safe to use, the main byproduct being ammonia. It is for natural fibers and unlike bleach, it doesn't damage them. It is safe for silk! It removes most fiber reactives (such as Dharma's Procion dye), direct dyes and acid dyes. It is somewhat thick, so you can brush it on, screen it on, stencil it on, etc. You let the fabric dry and steam it with a steam iron or steam in a steamer for 10 minutes or so. You basically stop when it stops discharging, then wash your fabric in a good detergent (such as Synthrapol) and rinse in Milsoft to restore softness. It works well on stuff you dye yourself with the above mentioned dyes, but does not work on the black rayon fabric or garments or black cotton T-shirts we are currently selling because they are dyed with dye that responds better to bleach.

DISCHARGING WITH COLOR REMOVER (THIOUREA DIOXIDE)

Thiourea dioxide is also a reducing agent. It is used to remove most fiber reactives (such as Dharma's Procion dye), as well as some direct dyes and acid dyes. It is especially useful on cellulose fabrics, since it is used in conjunction with Soda Ash. It is sometimes used on silks or wool, but one should always keep in mind that Soda Ash is harmful to those fibers, and they should be neutralized with vinegar afterward.

Immersion:

Thiourea dioxide is usually used as a discharge bath, for removing the color from a whole piece. It is therefore sometimes very handy for correcting dyeing "mistakes", or lightening a fabric for over-dyeing. A dyed fabric can be tied into a pattern or design as in Tie Dye or Shibori, then put in the discharge bath for interesting effects.

A typical recipe for 1 lb of fabric:

A non-reactive pan, like stainless steel or enamel (NOT aluminum, iron, etc)
2 Gallons of water
1 TBS Soda Ash
1/2 tsp Synthrapol or liquid dish soap
1 TBS Color Remover to start
Add damp fabric to the above bath and heat to a simmer. While simmering, add 1/4 additional teaspoon Color Remover every 15 min for a total of 1 hour (so an additional 1 tsp Color Remover, total). Simmer for an additional 15 minutes. Frequent gentle stirring throughout the process gives more even results, just as with dyeing. You can add more color remover if necessary with no harmful effects. Remove, rinse, and then wash your fabric in a good detergent like Synthrapol. You can also use Milsoft in the final rinse to restore (and then some!) the softness and drape of the fabric.

Also known as Spectralite, Color Remover is often used in conjunction with Soda Ash for indigo dyeing.

Direct Application:

It can be used to make a homemade discharge paste as well for cellulose fibers:
1 tsp Color Remover
1 tsp Soda Ash (dissolve in a little hot water 1st)
1 cup water
2 tsp Sodium Alginate (HV)
Combine the water and Alginate in a blender, or add the Alginate to the water while stirring rapidly. Then stir in the Color Remover and the dissolved Soda Ash. Let the mixture sit for at least 10-15 minutes to thicken. Paint or print onto the fabric. Before it is quite dry, it needs to be steamed 10-20 minutes, or it can be ironed with the steam on until the desired results are achieved. Protect the iron and ironing board with paper towels. Wash and rinse thoroughly as above.

DISCHARGING WITH BLEACH

Above is an example of our Black Rayon Fabricdischarged with 100% bleach. This is the fabric we make all our black rayon clothing out of.

A note about discharging rayon fabric:
Rayon is weaker when it is wet than when it is dry. We used full strength bleach on some black rayon to discharge it and rinsed it immediately after it discharged for a minute or two and both the discharged areas and the untouched black areas ripped very easily in one direction when pulled. After the fabric was dry it did not rip, even where bleached.
Conclusion:
You have to treat wet rayon very carefully, and it is not the discharging (if done properly) that is making the fabric weak. It is important to support the whole garment if you are going to lift it out of a dyebath when wet. Just grabbing part of it with a stick or other object could cause it to rip.

Bleach is a strong oxidizing agent, which is very hard on fabric (it really destroys protein, so use something else on silk or wool!) and has to be used carefully! The advantage of bleach is that it discharges a larger variety of dyes than the safer reducing agents like Thiourea Dioxide and Discharge Paste. For best results bleach should be diluted with water so it doesn't just burn right through your fabric, then neutralized with Bleach Stop to stop the action, as soon as the desired or maximum results have been achieved. However, if testing proves that only full strength bleach will work (like on our Rayon), just be extra careful - keep an eye on the progress and as soon as you have achieved desired results (should only take a few minutes!) rinse and neutralize the bleach immediately!

Immersion:
Bleach solutions for a discharge bath or spray can range in strength from 2 TBS per cup water (1:8) to full strength bleach. You often have to test each different fabric with different strengths - the ideal goal is to use as weak a solution as you can to get the desired results. Start testing with a weak solution and work your way up to a stronger one if necessary. Heat helps the process, so the warmer the water, the quicker the reaction. Remember to rinse as soon as it looks like the action has stopped or you have acheived your desired results, then neutralized with Bleach Stop (directions below) to stop the action of the bleach so your fabric won't be damaged. Then rinse and wash thoroughly as below.

Bleach Stop (Sodium Thiosulfate) directions:
Use 1 oz per gallon of warm water
Agitate for 15 minutes
Rinse and wash your fabric in a good detergent like Synthrapol, and you can also use Milsoft in the final rinse to restore (and then some!) the softness and drape of the fabric.

Direct Application:
Bleach and water can also be combined with a thickener to make a discharging paste, which can be painted, stenciled, stamped, etc., onto your fabric. You can use the old standby, sodium alginate to thicken it, or our new Bleach Thickener, which stays stable longer in the presence of bleach (24-36 hours!). Some books have recommended a product called Monogum, which breaks down (turns too liquid) even faster than the above mentioned thickeners.

The Bleach Thickener is designed to be used with bleach and water to produce a thickened paste which can be applied to fabric in order to remove color. The paste can be painted or printed onto the fabric. The thickener remains stable in bleach for 24 to 36 hours. The bleach thickener is for use on cellulose fibers such as cotton, linen, and rayon. Not recommended for protein fibers such as wool and silk.

For a Screen or Block Printing Solution:
1TBS+ 2 tsp Bleach thickener (TEST! It depends on how thick you need it)
1/8 cup bleach (TEST!! – it depends on how strong you need the bleach to be for a particular piece of fabric)

For painting it on:
1TBS Bleach thickener (TEST- it depends on how thick you need it)
1/16 to 1/8 cup bleach (TEST – it depends on how strong you need the bleach to be for a particular piece of fabric)

Following the percentages above add bleach thickener to the bleach until mixture is a smooth, thick and even consistency.

Paint or print this mixture onto fabric which has been previously dyed. The longer that the mixture is left on the fabric and the thicker the application of the bleach paste, the more dye that will be removed. However do not leave on for longer then several hours as the bleach may weaken the fabric. Once dry or discharged "to taste, wash fabric to remove thickener. You can use the Bleach Stop above to neutralize the bleach. If mixture is too thick, or you want a slower, or less of a reaction, you can add some water.

When using the bleach thickener on dyed fabrics you will find various results depending on the type of dye and color that is chosen for the background. We recommend our Procion MX dyes for cellulose fibers. Many dyes will not discharge to a white but rather to a lighter version of the same color and sometimes to another color entirely. Some colors and dye types will not discharge at all or very little. Results may vary. A little experimenting is required.

If using Sodium Alginate:
1 qt water
~4-8 tsp Sodium Alginate (experiment with the thickness until it meets your needs)-use HV unless drawing fine lines with an applicator.

Put the water in a blender, ideally, and sprinkle the alginate in slowly while the blender is going. Allow to set for 2 hours or so to continue thickening.

Use this thickened water to dilute your bleach, substituting it for the Bleach Thickener above. It will go bad somewhat quicker, ie. turn liquid, so only make as much as you will use fairly quickly. The thickened water by itself will store nicely in the refrigerator for a few weeks - just give it a clear non-food label!

With both of the above thickened bleach methods, after you have painted, stenciled, printed or screened the mixture on, let sit 5-10 minutes or until the desired amount of color is removed. Then rinse thoroughly in warm water and soak in your Bleach Stop solution as above. Next wash in Synthrapol, then you can use Milsoft in the final rinse to restore softness.

Procion On Cotton - Discharge Chart

(Procion Dyes - low dischargeable colors)

Lemon Yellow #1 discharges to light yellow
Golden Yellow #3 discharges to a lighter golden yellow
Fuchsia #13 discharges to light magenta
Turquoise #25 discharges to light turquoise
Kelly Green#66 discharges to light aqua
Burgundy #17 discharges to light burgundy
Better Black #44 discharges to light burgundy
Aquamarine #29 discharges to light aqua
Avocado #33 discharges to bright yellow
Lilac #19A discharges to gray
Robins Egg Blue #80 discharges to light aqua

(Procion Dyes - high dischargeable colors)

Rust Orange #8 discharges to light rust orange
Bright Orange #6 discharges to off white
Reds, #9,#10,#10A,#11A,#12 discharge to varying degrees of beige
Deep Purple #18 discharges to beige
Ultra Violet #18A discharges to gray
Cobalt blue #22 discharges to gray
Cerulean Blue #23 discharges to almost white
Navy #24 discharges to gray
Forest Green #31A discharges to gray
Bronze #37 discharges to beige
Maroon Brown #36 discharges to pinkish beige
Hot Pink #14A discharges to off white
Raspberry #65 discharges to beige
Midnight Blue #27 discharges to gray
Dark Green #31 discharges to light gold
Chocolate Brown #35A discharges to off white
Ecru #6A discharges to cream
Peach #7A discharges to pinkish cream
Bubble Gum #98 discharges to white
Ice Blue#61 discharges to light blue


PRODUCT REVIEWS
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MOST HELPFUL REVIEWS
5/23/2009
5
it was a wonderful product my only problem was the fabric needs to boil in solution and I was doing a large heavy channelle bedspread. We did it in the bathtub pouring several batches of boiling solution over. It worked and I am very happy with my bedspread
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6 of 6 users found this review helpful.
5/11/2009
4
color is hard to predict but that is part of the excitement of using this product. Would have liked more instructions or a suggested projects printout to think about.
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5 of 5 users found this review helpful.
3/12/2013
5
Worked perfectly on my ugly silk blend baby wrap. And the bonus it didn't smell as bad as I thought it would.
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3 of 3 users found this review helpful.
5/28/2011
5
This works like a dream. I use this to re-dye silks I find in the thrift store and it is perfect.
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2 of 2 users found this review helpful.
7/28/2010
2
Actually Rit color remover works better
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MOST RECENT REVIEWS
5/22/2011
5
Imagine my dismay when I discovered I was out of thiourea dioxide five days before I was planning to use it with a group of 23 fifth grade students in our plant dyeing lesson! Your quick shipping of this item made it possible for them to create beautiful indigo dyed projects.
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5/1/2011
5
Used this with the pre-reduced Indigo. It was very easy to use. Love the fact it comes in two sealed clear bags.
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2/26/2011
5
I does the job.
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2 of 5 users found this review helpful.
12/16/2010
5
Good product and great service Thanks
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11/29/2010
5
Just what I needed
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11/2/2010
5
I was so happy to receive this in time for one more batch of indigo dye. Thank you for the prompt service. SF 11-2-10
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9/28/2010
5
gets the color out
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9/18/2010
5
I just used it with indigo and it did the job.
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